Monday, September 20, 2010

Painful memories ALL OVER AGAIN!

In a previous post (who am I - part 3) I gathered all my energy and my pain and gathered all the courage I have and revealed the name of the man who abused me when I was a 8 year old child. I was thinking long and hard if I should do it or not, since he is not alive anymore, but after consulting my therapist he felt that I should go ahead and do it, open up and get it off my chest.

I was relieved after I did it  and I felt like a took another step towards healing and I was very proud of myself, and it made me feel like: Mr. Braver, I won after all! You abused me then, but I am over you and I have the courage to move on, and not be the victim!

That feeling though lasted a mere five minutes. Because five minutes after I posted it, I got the following comment!

Anonymous said...
To NuchemISright said...

Manny Manny of his Talmidim complaint of him being very strict!!!! NOBODY and Again NOBODY claimed any of this action on "R’ Chaim Aryeh Braver”
NuchemISright did he do it in public ? can you prove it with any other talmid? I think you are lying.

After I read that comment, I felt a weakness take over my body and had a flashback to my youth, it gave me that sinking feeling that I had when I gathered all my courage at the young age of 9-10 years and tried to report it to the principal, and I got  smacked for talking “Nonsense”!

I came home last night and showed it to my wife, and I was sick to my stomach! I could not eat supper; I could not build the sukkah! I did not WANT to build the sukkah! And all I want to say to that commenter is you took away with one comment, 20 years of work I did! 20 years of “moving forward” was gone in one second! Somehow I felt like it was my fault all over again! I felt like its me that did something wrong here, its me that is responsible for this, its me that is the bad person here.

But I got something I want to tell you. I know what happened, and I know what he did to me. And not even YOU will take that away from me!  I worked too hard to get here; I came over too many hurdles in my life that you should be able to ruin it all!  You got me down for 12 hours, but I am standing back up again and I will move forward and fight animals like you and your like.

How dare you tell me I am lying? Where do you come across to make that statement and tell me that it didn’t happen? I remember vividly how he rubbed his private parts on my flesh, how he made me touch him UNTIL COMPLETION!  How he smacked me after wards claiming that he does it for my good, to make me a “good Jew”!  How dare you make a comment like that?   You are just as bad as he is!
I want everyone to pay close attention to this comment. This is what your kids are up against!  They come and tell someone that they were inappropriately touched or molested, and the first thing they hear is YOU ARE LYING! Now think for a second and put yourself into a 10 year-olds shoes. How do you think he feels! How does he have a chance to every ever stand up when he is molested or abused! A 10-year old gathers all the courage he can possibly have, he is scared out of his mind, he probably tried to cry out 20 times and chickened out and finally he takes everything he has and does what’s necessary and what does he hear? YOU ARE LYING!

This boy is ruined for life! This boy will never be able to stand up for anything! This boy will never ever trust a human being in his life! And this boy will most-likely end up on drugs and these lowlifes will label him a “Sheigatz” and they don’t realize that they are the one to blame! They are the one that didn’t listen to him and put him through hell in the first place.

You just saw a perfect example of this vicious cycle! You just saw a perfect sequence on how our community works! You just saw the ruining of a human in front of your eyes.

How much longer do we have to be in this corrupt cycle? How much longer before each and every one of you wakes up and sees the hypocrisy in our system? How much longer before you give these little children a voice and a helping hand to have a chance in this world?  How much longer are you willing to cover up for the Rabbis that do NOTHING in our community but cover up all the filth? How much longer before you say “Thank you” Rabbi nuchem for speaking up for us! How many more children need to be molested and ruined for life before all of you will wake up and see whats happening here?  Why is it that I even need to ask you that? You should be jumping out of your skin and do everything possible to protect your children! What is wrong with you guys? What will it take?

40 comments:

  1. A MAN IS DEAD HE IS BURIED AND YOU ARE THE ONLY WITNESS TO THE FACT, ASSUMING ITS TRUE 100% YOUR ONE WITNESS THAT COULD NOT COME TO BETH DIN AND TELL THEM WHAT HAPPENED, IT WOULD BE CONSIDERED LOSHON HORA, AND NOW THIS PERSON CAN'T DEFEND HIMSELF AND YOU ARE STILL ONLY ONE WITNESS AND TO SHAME HIM HIS ENTIRE FAMILY IS UNACCEPTABLE,AS I SAID SINCE YOU KNOW VERY LITTLE ABOUT THE TERRIBLE PROHIBITION OF LOSHON HORA YOU GO TO A PUBLIC FORUM..NOW BTW I HAVE ENOUGH MATERIAL AGAINST REV. ROSENBERG TO SHAME HIM AND HIS FAMILY, BUT I WOULD NEVER DO IT, THE REV ROSENBERG MAYBE RIGHT, BUT THE APPROACH IS HORRIBLE, AND DISGRACING OTHER JEWS DOES NOT MAKE HIS WAR ANY BETTER..YOU WENT OF THE DERECH AND REVENGE OF ALL THE RABONIM IS YOUR GOAL YOU WILL NEVER ACHIEVE IT, AND YOU MAY NOT EVEN SURVIVE WITH THIS BLOG VERY LONG, BECAUSE I PRAY THAT YOU DISAPPEAR WITH YOUR REV. FOREVER FROM THE BLOG WORLD AND GO BACK LIVING LIKE A NORMAL JEW.

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  2. When did I go “off the derech” I didn’t know I went off! I was 6 am in shul and learned today and davened today and gave tsadakah today. now you know 2 things about me. I am lying about my abuse and I am off the derech! You are making great progress and helping my cause along the way. Keep commenting!

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  3. REREAD YOUR "WHO AM I" YOU KEEP CHANGING YOUR STORY, FURTHERMORE, HOW ARE YOU PUNISHING A DEAD MAN, EXCEPT HURTING HIS LIVING FAMILY, THIS IS THE GREATEST DEGREE OF SHAMING PEOPLE IN PUBLIC, AND YOU HAVE NO PORTION IN THE WORLD TO COME. GO CONTINUE WHAT YOUR DOING BUT KNOW YOUR NOT DOING G-DS WORK, U COULD TURN THIS AROUND BY STICKING TO ALL THE THINGS THAT ARE NOT GOOD, AND ASK THAT PEOPLE CHANGE THERE WAYS SO WE ALL MERIT MOSHIACH.

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  4. It is not loshen hora. Inflict pain on this beast. Let him turn over in his grave. Would he have known that you will come out against him in public in a blog he would not have done. Let this be a lesson to other melamdim chazeirim who put up a frum face as the pious face of rushe Chaim Arye. Watch out, don't do it because you will be put to shame.

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  5. To: NuchemISright said...
    you are using such discussing CHAZIRESHE words!!!! thats a big sign of being off the derech !!!! I would bet you are a # 1 pig!!!!

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  6. Gilbert, AZ - Charges against a Gilbert rabbi, accused of sexually abusing a 7-year-old girl 10 years ago in New York, have been dropped.
    Rabbi Brian Bramly of Temple Beth Sholom in Chandler was arrested on March 23 after the girl, now 17, claimed Bramly raped her at his New York home ten years ago.
    Bramly said the girl was best friends with his daughter since the two were 5.
    “We find out that this girl, whose friendship between my daughter fell out of favor several years ago, made these false and heinous allegations against me,” Bramly said.
    Bramly has been on paid administrative leave since the arrest.
    Despite claiming the allegations were false, Bramly’s case made global headlines.
    “We’ve received death threats. We’ve had our personal information placed on the internet, on websites where people who like to do harm to other people would go,” Bramly said.
    He passed a lie detector test before the Manhattan District Attorney’s office made a motion to drop all charges because the teen’s story was inconsistent.
    Last week Wednesday, all charges were dropped, but Bramly said the damage has been done.
    “What can I ever do about what’s on the Internet? What can I ever do to make it go away? Bad news didn’t need press releases; it didn’t need media agents or public relations people. Good news seems to travel incredibly slow and needs all the help it can,” Bramly said.
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    The rabbi is not sure what the future holds, but said he will weigh all legal options moving forward. " SO HERE YOU HAVE IT BELIEVING THE SO INNOCENT CHILD THEY MAKE UP STORIES PERIOD"

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  7. Your Rabbi Tauber was very clear!!! if there is a molester.. over the years it will come out from 10-15 directions!!!!! Reb Chaim Aryeh was a melamed for 30-40 years!!!! I have 3 Brother in-laws and 2 boys that learned by him!!!! they all are saying he was A Tzadik!!! but very strict...tough and so on.. but no one claimed any sexual misconduct... SO YES AGAIN you are LYING!!!! and stop thyat none sense.

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  8. Scary. The same description I read in a blog a former cheder yingel accuses Berl Goldman who was melamed in Bobov and after he was kicked out became melamed in other Talmid Toires. We are going to expose these animals, death or alive. A child in public school is more safe then a child in cheder. The ones who are concerned more about loshen hora then the safety of our children that's their problem. We are going to fight to the last drop of our blood for the safety of our children.

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  9. I got nothing to say to all of you. But i understand now why people dont come forward! I understand now why Rabbi nuchem has to be so aggresive. And futhrtmore i understand why the Rabbis are against him. Shame on you all! your yiddishkeit is wirthless

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  10. """After I read that comment, I felt a weakness take over my body and had a flashback to my youth, it gave me that sinking feeling that I had when I gathered all my courage at the young age of 9-10 years and tried to report it to the principal, and I got smacked for talking “Nonsense”!""""
    HEY YOU FAT PIG LIER.....Can you name the principal?????

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  11. And as me being a FAT PIG LIER what will you gain of me mentioning the Principal? isnt it Loshon hora and so much worst that molesting?

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  12. I am starting to think that Rabbi Nuchem is wrong! Why bother? Why do the effort? Let’s just have the molesting go on and let them ruin the kids and let them go on the way they are. It seems that people in the community want this way, so what the hell? I told a story that happened to me, and within 5 minutes I am a liar, a “off the derech”, a fat pig, a fabricator.

    Just imagine, me being a grown adult and have problems handling these people, how a 10-year old would feel? Keep going guys, Rape the children! Screw up their lives! Make them suck your penis like CHAIM ARYE BRAVER made me do (WAS THAT TO MUCH FILTHY LANGUAGE FOR YOU?) And FUCK up their lives. And don’t forget, do it all in the name of TORAH! I am sick of it all!

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  13. Dear Blogger,

    I'm an avid reader and have over the past few years read numerous blogs and news sites, generally including reader's comments. I have never, however, until today that is, commented.

    What is prompting me to comment to your posting of today is not a personal need to express my opinion or vent anger, frustration, or one of the many other human emotions; I am commenting to support you in your personal as well as in your communal struggle. You have taken upon yourself a crusade to eliminate the covering up of widespread pedophilic activity and sexual abuse in the Jewish community. I applaud you for undertaking this most noble cause.

    At times it will seem to you that you have made no inroads - that your work is in vain. Know, however, that the conversation in your local shtiebles, shuls, shawarma stands, and most notably and importantly mikvoahs have been changed forever. Yes, those opposed to you and to R’ Nuchem's mission will generally be more vocal and more inclined to comment on the blogosphere. When one talks to everyday people in any Jewish community, however, people are overwhelmingly grateful and supportive of the work you, R’ Nuchem and others do.

    You of course know better than I how many people visit and read your blog posts. An overwhelming majority of people visiting your blog visit because they support you. Not all of them have the ability to write well and some simply do not have the time or resources (they may be reading your posts on a blackberry or similar device) to post comments. Know that we are here however, and fully support you. Through all your postings and comments thus far, the warmth and compassion of your kind heart, as well as your empathy for your community and all other Jewish communities over the globe has emanated from your words. We have no reason not to believe you.

    In closing, I would like to appeal to all readers of this comment: Please, if you support the work of this blog and have been equally impressed by this blog's moderator as I have been, post a simple comment to show your support. It does not have to be well written and it does not have to be a lengthy post. A simple comment in support of his work can and will do wonders. He has been here for our, our children and our grandchildren’s sake for a while now, and from what I read between the lines of his postings, he has been there for the community in a modest way for a while before he started this blog, please support him in his time of need.

    Respectfully,

    nuchemisrightisright

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  14. Thank you so much, it means the world to me.

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  15. To..NuchemISright.
    The reason I am asking for the principle name to prove that you are A FAT PIG LIER!!!! and by not responding, you proved it...

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  16. yes you defenitly proved it allright!

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  17. To NuchemISright said...
    Every time you respond.. you prove yourself as a REAL CHAZIR...

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  18. Nochem, you better speed up your mission because if you wait too long, Mendel teitalbaum is due to become the “Rabun Shekol Bnei hagoila” grand rabbi, and then it will be in style to have sex with little kids. So get a move on it! Even now it seems that the oilem wants the abuse, but then it will be a regular practice.

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  19. As painful as it is, I am posting this guys comments. We call this “taking one for the team”. Let the whole world see, the mindset of this community and the mind set of the people in our circles.

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  20. You went to shule at 6 am and learned yet you use of the foul language continues please let me know where you daven so we can make sure your not part of my minyan...and by the way you should turn over in your living grave for shaming an entire family.

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  21. Don't give up. No, No, No. You are having a big impact. This chazeirim want to silence you, and for good reason. Even if you save only one child it is worth it. You save more than one as you see how much you incurred their wrath. To anon who has loshen hora on reb Nochemrosenbeg, don't believe him. The only thing I can think of, and this has more to do that he sticks up for every molester, the big chaser Yechiel Brauner is his first cousin, their mothers are sisters. Reb Nochem is such a tzadik, he treats him with the full harshness just like any other molester. Understand, to the first generation after the holocaust a cousin is like a brother because one has so few. Reb nochem has not spared him.

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  22. I daven in Rodney street every day, and learn there as well.

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  23. Thank you so much for posting this. You are a hero. Your words will help many. I'm here for you in anyway I can be.

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  24. Thank you Vicki. In my community it’s not politically correct to acknowledge you yet, but the tide is shifting and it is a matter of time before WE will realize what’s going on here. I believe the majority of the people are with us, but don’t have the courage to admit it in public, but we are making “baby steps” progress every day.

    Thank you again!

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  25. in the rebbis shule now i know, you were expelled from yeshiva went by by in yidiskite, revenge time, just remember a torah without rabbinical authority is no torah you want to act like an apikoris, stop acting you are one, and all those defenders like a vicki polin who has no clue of her yidish name will get you very far. I really wonder who else abused you that made you go away from yiddishkite?

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  26. You know, in the beginning when you started this blog, I was sceptical about your approach and R' Nuchem's. I also questioned why you have not revealed your identity when you feel so strongly about this issue the way R' Nuchem did. The more you reveal yourself and your background, the more I'm beginning to understand where you are coming from and why you are doing this. I'm very proud of your courage and I hope you'll ultimately succeed as well. I also have a somewhat similar background but it's more of physical abuse by a rebbe rather than sexual abuse. When I was in first grade in Yesiva Be'er Shmuel, my rebbe pulled down my pants in front of the whole class and then threw me under his desk and kicked me while he was teaching chimish and rashi to the class. I also remember being molested as a child by an older bochir in the Mesivta when I visited my brother there. So I can understand this when many other people would not. Kol hakovod to you!!

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  27. First our kids are molested, then understandably they don't do well in class, then they are like trash and expelled, and then they are not to be believed. Hey, go ahead mlamdim chazeirim. And also, don't forget, put on a mask like an erlicher yid, just like the frim punim of reb Chaim Arye, and who is going to believe your accusers.

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  28. There was a similar outcry when the victims of Ephraim Shapiro from Baltimore broke their silence. There were the same ignoramuses complaining that there is no benefit in exposing the crimes of a dead man. Little do they realize the immense benefits to the victim and to the community at large. For the victim, it has tremendous therapeutic benefit to come out and to finally express the nightmare he has been living with. For the community, the benefit is that this plague (yes, plague) that has afflicted us, is finally being brought to the forefront and there is a broad consensus that the keeping the status quo is NOT ACCEPTABLE! It's about time there is a general consensus and realization that our rabbis are not equipped in handling cases of child molestation and all cases must be referred to the police. The victims must be supported and aided through their horrific ordeal. We must stop supporting the criminals and start supporting the victims, for our sake, for our childrens' sake, and for Hashem's sake.

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  29. I too was molested my my principal when i was in Yeshiva. It did not become public until after he died. The Rabbis asked me, why do you want to make this public? He's dead. What about his family... What good will it do. This is what i told them.

    1. If a molesting rabbi sees that we are willing to publicize someone who is dead he will know that we won't hesitate to publicize someone who is ALIVE, and because of that we may save even one more child from being molested.

    2. When victims of sexual abuse read about this Rabbi and what he did to all of us and see that people actually want to do something about this, perhaps they will be empowered to come forward and tell us about the molesters that are STILL ALIVE and we may save even one more child from being molested.

    3. When our heilega Rabbonim see that we are not going to sit back and allow them to protect and cover up molesters, perhaps they will start acting responsibly and we may save even one more child from being molested.

    Thank you so much for what you are doing. We all know that they guy who is commenting is one ignorant pitiful person. Know that there are hundreds, probably thousands of us who are reading your blog every day and are cheering you on.
    You are a hero!
    HKB"H should give you strength to continue your holy work.

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  30. I am glad you have support from Vicki Polin.
    It proves again my point that you are a filthy chazir..

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  31. משתתף בצערן של ישראלSeptember 20, 2010 at 11:50 AM

    all i can wish you "Anonymous FatPig" is that your children should be raped by a "heimisher pig", the come back and we'll talk. I can think only of one name for you: ASSHOLE.
    Do you know why you molesters are still in this world? Because the special גהינם is still being built with special cauldrons of ש"ז רותחת. you and the rabbonim that support you should burn there for eternity while a video of nice cute kids is playing and the kids are out of your reach. PLOTZ.
    ב"ה people are starting to wake up. Lets band together and unmask these רשעים and their supporters. בשם ה' נעשה ונצליח

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  32. your curse words will find its address real close to you...

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  33. As we see here from the commenters, some were molested by the melamed, some by the menahel, and some by bocherim. For the life of me, why the mechanchim are not addressing this epidemic? Just for their own kinderlech and einiklech. If not for us then for yourself. NuchemIsRight, we need you. We are going to take matters in our own hands and only then the mechanchim will listen.

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  34. this story is so painful....embarrassing...shocking..

    this is signs of moshiach...all the drek is coming out...major cleanup time....

    Chazak V'amatz

    a Talmud of this holy man.

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  35. NIR - Looks like you're getting to them! Keep up your courageous work! There are one, maybe two people who comment negatively on this blog (you can tell because they all write the same way)

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  36. dear nochum is right

    i am sorry for your pain

    the molesters are everywhere and the comments questioning your truthfullness are disgraceful

    may you and your wife and family be blessed with kol tuv and let the enablers get whats coming

    the mondorowitzs
    the shmeltzers ( he groped boys while wrestling in the yeshiva in miami and was fired (they say removed)

    the elior chens
    the kolkos
    the rabbis in ner yisroel

    they will all get whats coming from them
    the

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  37. As a parent, I applaud what you do. And I second the previous commenter, my respect for you and your work has only grown with each progressive post, because you come across as "from the heart", and now, as a survivor that knows first-hand the terrible repercussions abuse has on its victims, and even worse possible...

    The commenters that are just flaming, and trying to instigate you - are just as guilty as the molesters - as enablers... And I would say,IF they were sincere, they would have a totally different more sensitive approach.

    So while I did stop for a second when I read the name of R" Braver and that he's not in this world anymore... I could completely understand where you are coming from.

    It is so very sad that it has come to this... but you know what - this whole world is at a pivotal moment, Moshiach's footsteps... Truth is lies, and lies is truth, good is evil and evil is good... so scary, but we all believe that if we do our very best - whatever our mission in life is (and I am glad you undertook bringing this issue to the forefront - the importance of protecting our children, and confronting and preventing abusers/molesters) Hashem will help us, and bring Moshiach very soon!!

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  38. Just for the record, Mr. Mondrowits and Mr. Reichmann were held in the same level or maybe even greater respect that Mr. braver. So don’t fool yourself at all. I also just listened to the new update on the hotline, and R’ Nuchem made a huge point. How come no one sticks up for Mr. Braver’s son who is also being accused of molesting? He is not dead; he is alive, stick up for him guys! Hmmmmmm speaks volume about it!

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  39. dear nochum is right

    i am sorry for your pain

    the molesters are everywhere and the comments questioning your truthfullness are disgraceful

    may you and your wife and family be blessed with kol tuv and let the enablers get whats coming

    the mondorowitzs
    the shmeltzers ( he groped boys while wrestling in the yeshiva in miami and was fired (they say removed)

    the elior chens
    the kolkos
    the rabbis in ner yisroel

    they will all get whats coming from th

    THERE ARE A MILLION OTHER FRUM JEWS CAN YOU COUNT THEM? OR ONLY MOLESTERS ARE ON YOUR LIST??

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  40. Anonymous said...
    Scary. The same description I read in a blog a former cheder yingel accuses Berl Goldman who was melamed in Bobov and after he was kicked out became melamed in other Talmid Toires. We are going to expose these animals, death or alive. A child in public school is more safe then a child in cheder. The ones who are concerned more about loshen hora then the safety of our children that's their problem. We are going to fight to the last drop of our blood for the safety of our children.

    September 20, 2010 8:58 AM

    wow i can't beleive this,ive been waiting for years to hear this from someone else,you see i was molested by berel goldman when he was a melamed in the belzer cheider & for years have been wondering if i was his only victim,let's hear from others!don't hide it in yourselves anymore!

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