Let me be the first to tell you that when I heard this from Rabbi Nuchem, I said to myself, I think he is hallucinating and a bit feverish. Why would they want to sit with him? A person they hate so much. So I did a little of investigating of my own and saw that it is all true.
I will not mention all the names right now but I will mention Rabbi Israel Hager from Monsey. I did my research and confirmed it with different sources’, and I will tell you what is going on here.
I will break you down different factors.
1. The problem
2. The solution
3. The record, and
4. the guilty conscious
The rabbis and the community leaders have known all along that there is a major problem in our community with child abuse, molestation, unqualified teachers and covering up the problem. However, they had a major dilemma how to tackle this issue for many reasons and different people had agendas why to cover it up.
It came to a point where young children who were molested in the past, grew up and started families of their own. These young men and women are not made of the “Hungarian Marmaroshe” material that you put on a set of blinders and go with the program. These were people that wanted action, and wanted to see there children be in a safe environments.
As these people were complaining, the School principals and rabbis for obvious and multiple reasons shushed them up. They knew their job was on the line, they knew who the culprits are and they knew that the complaints are legit.
One nice day, along came a man named Nuchem Rosenberg. He started to complain and wanted answers, so these rabbis did what they do best they warned him to shut up or else. Little did they know that this time its not going to work. They had a major problem on their hands. There is this “Meshigene guy” that does not take NO for an answer. What are we to do? We have to shut him up! He can expose us all.
We all know how they dealt with it. They Put Rabbi Rosenberg is Cheirem (isolation) and they were so proud with themselves and they thought, “We got him good”
(I will come back to the cheirem part soon and discuss how baseless it is and how it means nothing and most of all Most REAL EHRLICHE YIDEN laugh at this Cheirem and by Now even the ones who signed it, laugh at it and they are sick with the signature they give for it.)
The bottom line was tough, every one knew THEN that there is a problem and everyone knows NOW that there is a problem and it is very clear that there is only one man doing something to tackle this problem and without Rabbi nuchem our streets would’ve looked like “The village” in the city. Hashem yerachem!
In the United States, punishment has always been the primary goal to achieve when dealing with individuals who commit acts of crime. Many theorists throughout history have argued which is more effective, punishment or rehabilitation. The effectiveness of punishment and rehabilitation has been analyzed to see the effects on victims and offenders and also the social and fiscal impact on our society.
The Classical School of Criminology has proposed that punishment is used to create deterrence and the Positive School of Criminology uses the practice of rehabilitation to reduce recidivism. Deterrence is one of the primary goals in the criminal justice system and it is described as special or specific deterrence and general deterrence. The purpose of special/specific deterrence is to instill fear on the offender so that they will not commit future crime. General deterrence is based on punishing offenders to instill fear in society, otherwise known as teaching society a lesson and showing the consequences of committing crime.
Punishment has always been imposed based on the idea that it will deter individuals from committing crime or repeating criminal acts. Incapacitation has been the most common form of punishment, however research demonstrates that recidivism amongst convicted felons following release from prison is as high as 63% and that most prison inmates had arrest records and convictions prior to their current offense. (Bureau of Justice Statistics, 1989) Punishment through incarceration is a temporary fix to crime while the offender is confined. The maximum sentence of life in prison and the death penalty has even been debated on whether they are deterrence to crime. There are so many underlying factors within the criminal justice system that may contribute to why punishment has not been as effective as anticipated such as the appeal process in death penalty cases and the length of time that an offender sits on death row.
Others argue that rehabilitation is a more permanent fix in deterring crime. Rehabilitation through community supervision can have a more lasting effect on individuals and deter them from committing future crime if they learn how to adapt in society by gaining academic or trade skills. These programs can help offenders find employment and secure an important role in the community and give them a sense of being. Therapy is another form of rehabilitation needed to help deter individuals from committing future crime. Some examples of therapy include drug therapy to those offenders addicted to drugs and psychological counseling to those offenders who grew up in an abusive household. Rehabilitation is based on creating a change in the criminal's attitude or resources so that crime is neither a desired nor necessary activity. When an individual is sentenced to probation, it gives them the opportunity to remain self-supporting within the community and not using the taxpayer and states money to house them in a correctional facility.
In many cases, victim rights tend to be overshadowed by the rights of the accused. The courts are obligated to give a defendant their Constitutional rights including the right to a speedy trial, the right to counsel, the right to confront witnesses, and due process under the law. Up until recently, victim's rights were never recognized as an important role in the criminal justice system. In the past, victims and their families were often treated as inconveniences, ignored throughout trial proceedings, and sometimes even forced to stay out of the courtroom as the proceedings went on. These issues have caused many victims to feel neglected and even re-victimized by the courts. On October 30th, 2004, The Crime Victims' Rights Act was signed into law by President Bush to guarantee rights to victims of federal crime. These rights include, to be reasonably protected from the accused offender and to receive reasonable and timely notice of any public proceeding involving the crime or of any public proceeding.
The majority of society, including victims of crime prefers swift punishment to rehabilitation through community supervision. According to the BJS Sourcebook of Criminal Justice Statistics, more than three-quarters of the public see punishment as the primary justification for sentencing. They also report that more than 70 percent believe that incapacitation is the only sure way to prevent future crimes, and more than three-quarters believe that the courts are too easy on criminals. Public opinion supports the increased use of prisons to give criminals just desserts.
When a victim or the victims' family feels that their offender does not receive the appropriate sentence, it causes emotional stress and also financial strain when restitution is not implemented.
Community supervision can also benefit victims in certain ways. When an offender is sentenced to intense supervision through probation, they have the ability to pay restitution through employment.
Other forms of rehabilitation through community supervision may also benefit a victim or their families such as programs such as one that was introduced in my county. The program is a group of victims called the Victim Impact Panel who talk to offenders that are convicted of drunk driving. These individuals are brought face to face with victims and their family members of drunk driving. These programs have high hopes of deterring individuals from committing such acts.
Punishment through incarceration has many effects on convicted criminals. Incarceration has many effects on the offender psychological well-being. When an offender is separated from their family, it causes severe depression. Supporters of rehabilitation versus punishment argue that sentencing offenders to incarceration hurt the family structure by contributing to single parenting. They also argue that punishment causes social disorientation, alienation, and also increases the risk of recidivism. When an offender is released from incarceration, they face social isolation, stigmatism, economic and employment challenges. Rehabilitation through community supervision eliminates many of these issues, such as the economic & employment factor. Probation allows offenders to remain with their families, continue working or find employment under close supervision.
There are certain crimes that would benefit from rehabilitation more so than punishment, such as non-violent drug related. Criminals who commit acts of crimes to support their drug habit need treatment more than punishment. In many states, such as New York, Drug courts have been established. Drug courts represent the coordinated efforts of the judiciary, prosecution, defense bar, probation, law enforcement, mental health, social service, and treatment communities to actively and forcefully intervene and break the cycle of substance abuse, addiction, and crime. Drug courts quickly identify substance-abusing offenders and place them under strict court monitoring and community supervision, coupled with effective, long-term treatment services. The National Drug Court Institute describes the process that a participant as an intense regimen of substance abuse and mental health treatment, case management, drug testing, and probation supervision while reporting to regularly scheduled status hearings before a judge. In addition, drug courts may provide job skill training, family/group counseling, and many other life-skill enhancement services. Data consistently show that treatment, when completed is effective and loss more cost effective.
Social Impact upon Society
The social impact of punishment and rehabilitation varies from the increasing costs of correctional facilities to the disruption of families to the fear of criminals released into community. Society's view plays a major role in the criminal justice system. Society's belief's in the "just desserts" theory has played a role in the courts. The push for mandatory sentencing has even entered political campaigns in response to the public. "Getting tough on crime" was the basis behind different mandatory sentencing practices. The increase of correctional facilities is also related to society's impact on punishment versus rehabilitation.
All of the above are for crimes that don’t impact the victim for life (i.e. drugs, theft, ) and the victims are mostly adults. However when comes to pedophilia, there is a while new debate: Is pedophilia a disease to be treated, or a crime to be punished? Are people who seduce minors sick or evil? Our current legal and medical systems blur both views. We call for the most draconian punishments (life imprisonment, castration, permanent exile) precisely because we view these acts as morally heinous, yet also driven by uncontrollable biological urges. if IIIfsex with children is truly the product of freely made moral choices, then we should deal with it through the criminal justice system. But if it is a genetically over-determined impulse, an uncontrollable urge nestled in our DNA, then punishing pedophiles must be morally wrong. As science—and culture—increasingly medicalizes bad behavior, finding a neurological component to everything from alcoholism to youth violence, we run the parallel risks of either absolving everyone for everything, or punishing "criminals" who are no guiltier than cancer patients.
What science has revealed about the moral/medical roots of pedophiles is, of course, ambiguous. What is clear is that the binary choice laid out above is an oversimplification. The medical community, which started to view pedophilia as a disease rather than a crime in the 19th century, has amassed evidence that at least some violent and antisocial behaviors have genetic links and signposts. But researchers have been unable to isolate a biological cause for pedophilia, or even to agree on a personality profile. Not to mention the terrific confusion within the medical community in defining what this "disease" really involves. Until a few years ago, for example, the DSM-IV—the Psychiatric Association's Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders—defined pedophilia as a disease only if the sufferer's "fantasies, sexual urges, or behaviors cause clinically significant distress or impairment in social, occupational, or other important areas of functioning." In other words, a non-impaired, remorseless pedophile was apparently perfectly healthy.
There are 2 types of molesters. Some Molesters engage in sex with children for a variety of reasons and sometimes these reasons have little to do with sexual desires. This type of offender, called a situational child molester, does not possess a genuine sexual preference for children. Rather, the motivational factors are criminal in nature. In some cases, the offender's sexual abuse of young people is a natural outgrowth of other forms of abuse in his life. That abuse is a continuation of a process by which he has mistreated his friends, colleagues, spouse and family members. He will have low self-esteem, maintain poor moral standards and view sex with children as an opportunity to prolong the violence that is already an active component of his existence. Other situational offenders see children as a substitute for an adult partner. Although these types of offenders do not harbor a singular sexual desire for children, they may react to a built up sexual impulse or anger, that to them, is irresistible. However, the victim is incidental. It could have been a store clerk, an elderly person or simply a woman walking down a lonely street. Because of the circumstances at hand, , the victim happened to be a child. His main criterion for a victim is availability.
The most common molester is defined as a preferential child molester. These offenders have a sexual preference for children and usually maintain these desires throughout their lives. Preferential child molesters can have an astounding number of victims and these crimes can remain undiscovered for many years. In 1995, a child molestation case in Texas caused a national uproar when the suspect was due to be released from prison after serving a six-year sentence for the rape of a 6year-old boy. He told the police that he got away with abusing over 240 children before getting caught for molesting a single child and if released, would do it again.
One long-term study of hundreds of sex offenders found that the pedophile child molester committed an average of 281 acts with 150 partners. These types of offenders wreak havoc upon society far out of proportion to their numbers.
The preferential child molester exhibits distinct patterns of behavior that are common among his kind. They will seduce children by buying gifts and appealing to their emotional weakness. This requires the offender to develop a friendship with the child or utilize an existing relationship with the victim. In more than 90 percent of the rapes of children less than 12 years old, the offender knew the victim (U.S. Department of Justice). Other offenders will engage in self-exposure or personally harass children. Simply stated, the preferential child molester is a pedophile who has carried his fantasies and desires into reality. A small minority of these types of offenders may be sadistic in nature and inflict pain or torture upon their victims. These individuals, like any other criminal, can be brutal and sadistic. Such an individual was Britain's most famous and despised child molester, Bill Malcolm.
In 1981, Malcolm was convicted of raping a 3-year-old girl and sent to prison. When he was released in 1984, he returned to rape the same terrified girl who was then 6 years old. Malcolm was angry that she had identified him as the rapist. He later told cops he wanted revenge. He was charged again in 1994 with rape and assault on four children who he allegedly tied to a bed and forced to perform sex acts. A judge later made a favorable ruling in Malcolm's case and he walked out of the courtroom a free man. But child molesters evoke little sympathy from the general public. On February 18 2000, two men showed up at Malcolm's doorstep and promptly put a bullet in his head. One person said what a lot of Londoners were feeling: "Whoever did this deserves a medal!" N.Y. Post, February 20, 2000).
The bottom line is clear that for 99% of child molesters there is only one solution, and that is to put him behind bars and throw away the key otherwise he will rape and molest again.
The record of the rabbis in our community is a terrible one. They have never taken the side of the victim and always taken the side of the abuser. And there are many reasons for it.
1. The molesters are con artists. They put up a face in front of the Rabbi and start crying “I made a mistake” “I do Teshuva” and most of these rabbis buy it. Hence, Yichiel “Jerry” Brauner (who incidentally is a first cousin to Rabbi Rosenberg – and to the Rabbis credit he has been going strong after this piece of filth) who molested thousands upon thousands of kids, went to Skulener rabbi every time he was caught and cried “I am sorry” and the rabbi bought his bull shit, told him to say Tehillim 3 times and the rabbi urged the victims to drop the charges. There are multiple stories similar to this one.
2. Most rabbis are not qualified to handle this problem. They have no idea how to deal with it, and they should not get involved with things they don’t know. They should all get a course in child molestations patterns and history of predators and then they will see how you are supposed to deal with it.
3. NO GUTS! They can not make a controversy tough decision. Its all about their own standing in the community and their own image. And until that changes, there is nothing to bring to the table. They must be able to make a tough strong decision and not be scared of the consequences.
In conclusion. The records of our Rabbis are sickening and horrendous! Until the HOLY Rabbi Nuchem took a stand in this community, there was a free-for-all for every predator. And at the current status, if Rabbi Nuchem would go away and leave it to the rabbis, our streets would become a garden of eden to the child molesters. NO QUESTION ABOUT IT!
The guilty conscious
It has come now to a point, that the Rabbis are seeing the big Boo-Boo they made here. They know they goofed up, they know the molestations in our community, they know the schools and the mikvahs are a paradise to the abusers, they know that they are mostly to blame for sitting back and not only doing nothing, but making it possible for these monsters to go with their dirty work. And most of all THEY KNOW THAT Rabbi NUCHEM WAS RIGHT ALL ALONG!
So their conscious is playing on their minds and now they want to “talk”! they send messages upon messages they want to “sit down” and discuss the issues. Well rabbis let me spell it out to you and give you some guidelines you must agree before wasting your time. And here is your check list.
1. There will be no restrictions and protecting of anyone (including a Rabbi who supports molesters).
2. The hotline won’t shut down until Rabbi Nuchem feels that the time has come that it is not needed anymore.
3. You will show rabbi nuchem a “legit blueprint” on what you plan to do with the next molester you catch! (The kosover chasirs way of punishing him by putting the books every night in the case, is not a very productive one.)
4. You will set up a office for the community in the center of Lee Ave. and 13th Ave that takes every kids accusations seriously and thoroughly investigated. and then given over to the Police dept.
5. You will introduce “prevention and education” in our school system
Once you show an effort and a willingness to make some legit suggestions and progress, that’s when you can “sit down” with Rabbi Nuchem. But before you are willing to do something real and all you want to do is “talk” and therapy for your conscious”? Don’t waste your time! It didn’t work 3 years ago and it won’t work now!
In essence Rabbi Nuchem should not even give you guys the time of the day after what you did to him, but for the sake of the children and the sake of clean streets and clean class rooms, he is willing to do it once you obliged the above mentioned criteria.